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 July 1, 2005

SeptimusH — July 1 @ 2:06am

I just woke up after going to bed before dark. I don’t know what’s wrong with me. I woke up and felt the stitches in the side of my head and remembered it wasn’t a dream. I was in the hospital.

Last night after going to bed I was trying to relax and see with my eyes shut. The room lit up bright and I opened my eyes and my bedroom was dark. I got up out of bed and looked around the house. Every door that I had shut before was open. I heard a noise like a scamper but when I went outside it was totally quiet. I walked into the field behind my house. When the ground started to vibrate under my feet I just started running. That’s the last thing I remember.

Dale says he found me hung up on his barbwire fence.

My head hurts. My hands are shaking and I feel dizzy and like I might throw up. I don’t know if it’s the concussion or what. Dale says I need some kind of counseling. I’m scared. I don’t know what’s happening to me.


  1. War of the Worlds is just a movie, dude. That’s all. It’s just a movie.

    Eric Russell — July 1, 2005 @ 6:51am

    Jenn — July 1, 2005 @ 7:48am
  3. Is this blog for real? With the new posts around here, I’m not so sure anymore. I’m a frequent visitor, but don’t think I’ll visit much more!

    Huhwhat — July 1, 2005 @ 8:17am
  4. With the sperm-fest going on at Few-are-chosen and the sexualization and creepy glorification of polygamy at Real Men, I’m done.

    You guys alienate Rosalynde by calling her the crapper (when her post was about finding time alone and didn’t come close to talking about that), but encourage guys like Steve (FSF) who clearly have no other sexual outlet besides the internet.

    Now, Septimus is trying to pen his first work of lame fiction one blog entry at a time. Though there may be a point, I think I’ll just check out.

    walking — July 1, 2005 @ 8:58am
  5. I’m checking with Septimus to find out if this is real.

    Greg Fox — July 1, 2005 @ 9:12am
  6. Walking sounds like one of those repressed homosexual, mad at the world, BKP types.

    Dick Handcock — July 1, 2005 @ 9:52am
  7. Walking, nothing on the “Real Men” thread glorifies polygamy. Aaron’s got his borderline fundamentalist take on it, but that’s just because his eyes are larger than his stomach. Appropriate action has been taken on the “Few are Frozen” thread to eliminate content that is outright offensive.

    Blogs work when they provide good content and allow for fun and interesting interaction. The goal of this blog is to excel at providing this content and interaction by remaining free from the stifling restrictions of administrators who view Plato’s overly-scripted Socratic dialogs as the ideal for on-line interaction. I take a lot of pride in this, even if it means that I have to put up with viewpoints and beliefs that frustrate me. If you think that this diversity is too much, then move on. But I invite you to look past the parts that disagree with you and find other things that you like about our blog.

    Miranda PJ — July 1, 2005 @ 10:35am
  8. I’m sorry, Septimus. I got caught up responding to Walking. I’m terribly sorry to hear about your accident. Have you ever sleep walked before? There’s got to be some kind of rational explanation. I’m sure that in a week you’ll be laughing about this.

    Miranda PJ — July 1, 2005 @ 11:34am
  9. Sep. You know I’m your buddy. But because your post has no title I’m not sure what your main point is. What you want us to take away from this.

    Aaron B. Cox — July 1, 2005 @ 12:20pm
  10. This is one of the more confusing and bizarre posts I’ve ever read. And I run BCC, for crying out loud!

    Steve Evans — July 1, 2005 @ 12:44pm
  11. What’s interesting to me is that nobody has yet suggested that Sep is suffering from a mental illness; paranoid schizophrenia, for example, might come to mind. Contrast this with the reaction to Lisa’s struggles disclosed on FMH last week: her experience was pathologized instantly, and everybody assured her repeatedly that she’s depressed. There are probably a number of reasons for the difference in response, but I think one of them is that women and women’s experiences are more quickly written off as the symptoms of feminine fragility, to be “fixed” by the tools in the modern pharmcological toolbox.

    I’m not opposed to the medicalization or the medical treatment of mental illness, but I think the gender disparity is interesting.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 1:05pm
  12. Not interesting, actually; troubling, and, occasionally, infuriating.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 1:05pm
  13. Rosalynde,

    Do you think that your inability to commit to a particluar wording to describe this perceived disparity might be a symptom of something?

    a random john — July 1, 2005 @ 1:09pm
  14. Given her prior comments, I’m confident that Rosalynde has Tourette syndrome.

    Kaimi — July 1, 2005 @ 1:12pm
  15. Yeah, it’s called Rosalynde’s Sign for detecting the presence of a jerk.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 1:13pm
  16. Okay, I regret that; rude and not even funny. Sorry, arJ. Think what you want of my word choice.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 1:18pm
  17. Rosalynde, your analysis is way off. Just before I read it, I was going to post a comment predicting that Septimus’ s next post is going to be entitled, “I am the Walrus.” The reason why I was going to ridicule Septimus in this way is because I’m completely dismissive of his problems. I’d characterize him as a nut case, and would never bother to bring clinical language into the picture.

    You see a willingness to consider women fragile, and an unwillingness to see a defect in the constitution of a man. Even if true, this is a pretty trivial problem. I see a willingness to engage women seriously about their problems, and an unwillingness to take the problems that men experience seriously. This is a much more serious issue.

    At any rate, thanks for reminding us that it is worthwhile to take the possibility of mental health seriously, even when the subject is a man.

    DKL — July 1, 2005 @ 1:31pm
  18. Uhh, maybe the difference is that no one believes this post is for real. And there is certainly a different audience for this blog and FMH. You could just as easily argue that the predominantly female readership of FMH is more in tune with the rather common phenomenon of depression. I think you are battling windmills on this one, Rosalynde.

    NFlanders — July 1, 2005 @ 1:31pm
  19. Rosalynde, I think that a random john was making a joke in keeping with the point that you were trying to make (which struck me as reasonably clever). I don’t think that he was actually offering anything approaching a diagnosis or evaluation of your word choice.

    DKL — July 1, 2005 @ 1:40pm
  20. I’m with Flanders here.

    If there were anyone here who actually believed this story, I have no doubt that there would be an outpouring of sympathy and advice. But after a post about mutilated cows, I don’t think there’s any question that this is a joke, nor that SeptimusH has a very strange sense of humor.

    And if it IS real, then the David Lynch approach of addressing the problem is the wrong way to voice it.

    Eric Russell — July 1, 2005 @ 2:06pm
  21. Ned, you may be right: like I said, there are probably a number of reasons for the difference, and the ones you mention are certainly among them. Let me just clarify, though: I’m not making a claim about men oppressing women, or women being the victims of a misogynist medical establishment; as you point out, the quickest to pathologize women’s experiences are generally women themselves, and women now represent more than half of medical school admissions. I was just suggesting that public opinion may be more likely to represent women as weak-minded or mentally unstable in everday ways (the spectacularly psychotic is usually represented as male).

    I’m sensitive to this issue right now because of what’s going on with Tom Cruise and Brooke Shields: I’m sympathetic to Shields, and I think Cruise is acting bizarrely, but I’m also chagrined that now post-partum depression will be added to the litany of PMS, “pregnancy brain,” clinical depression and anxiety, eating disorders and other pathologies that are occasionally used (by women and men) to minimize women’s legitimate grievances or to mask structural problems with the way gender is practiced.

    Then again, maybe women really are just weaker-minded than men; I suppose that must at least be considered.

    And DKL, you’re very welcome; you know me, always bravely battling to rectify the oppression men endure in our post-feminist society! ;)

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 2:12pm
  22. You may be right, Rosalynde. I did mention I was a depressive person in a recent blog post and no one suggested medication (of course, that could be because I don’t have many female readers). It is an interesting topic, just not one that can be attributed to our reaction to Septimus’s bizarre post.

    NFlanders — July 1, 2005 @ 2:35pm
  23. DKL,

    Actually I take great pride in my ability to perform remote diagnosis with minimal information. For instance, I can tell you that some people around here appear to have been born without an ulnar nerve, which causes involuntary knee “jerk” reactions at the slightest provocation. I assume that Dr. North, DDS would concur with my diagnosis.

    a random john — July 1, 2005 @ 2:40pm
  24. Rosalynde: I’m also chagrined that now post-partum depression will be added to the litany of PMS, “pregnancy brain,” clinical depression and anxiety, eating disorders and other pathologies that are occasionally used (by women and men) to minimize women’s legitimate grievances or to mask structural problems with the way gender is practiced.

    So female problems are treated as pathologies, and therefore cures are sought for them. The tragic outcome of this is that much more money is spent researching medical problems specific to women than medical problems specific to men. It’s small wonder that women have longer lifespans than men; they didn’t used to.

    DKL — July 1, 2005 @ 3:15pm
  25. So, how does Septimus deliver posts at two in the morning anyhow? From his phoneless house? Does he download at the payphone? Is he working very late? Does he break into the library after hours?

    John Mansfield — July 1, 2005 @ 3:20pm
  26. Riiiiiiight, DKL, there are almost as many ads for PMS remedies as for ED remedies on TV. Yeah, I see what you mean.

    You’re right that breast cancer, in particular, is a corporate darling at the moment, and research on the topic has benefited greatly. As for women’s lifespans, if you’re correct, it’s almost certainly due to the safety of modern childbirth in the modern era of sterility and surgery. If there’s a fat moneystream larding research on PMS, or anorexia, or post-partum depression, for that matter (distinct from the moneystream flowing from women’s insurance companies to the pharmaceutical industry), I’m unaware of it. Cancer, AIDS, diabetes, and heart disease are still the biggies.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 3:28pm
  27. Hey, did you bother to untangle my kite while you were in there?

    Lurch — July 1, 2005 @ 3:29pm
  28. Who here uses a telephone to access the internet, John?

    Miranda PJ — July 1, 2005 @ 3:29pm
  29. Rosalynde, breast cancer has been a corporate darling for decades. And pregnancy mortality rates did not go down merely as a byproduct of sterility and sanitation; there were a lot factors; for example, things like the use of endoscopic techniques (and later ultra-sound) to diagnose ectopic pregnancies. Read the “The Sex-Bias Myth in Medicine” in the August 1994 edition of The Atlantic Monthly (it was basically a response–and a good one–to all of the propaganda being advanced at the time by Hillary Clinton in order to justify the claim by her [and groups like NOW] that there was a “health care crisis.”)

    DKL — July 1, 2005 @ 4:02pm
  30. Fine, Dave, nice work. As I said above, I’m not making an argument that there’s a sex-bias in medicine.

    Rosalynde — July 1, 2005 @ 4:41pm
  31. I understand that, Rosalynde. But I’m sure that you’re familiar with the feminist critique of science, so that you know that research funding levels correlate much more closely with political interests and popular opinion than with anything believed by the members of the medical establishment.

    DKL — July 1, 2005 @ 7:02pm
  32. Wait now why is it so hard to belive? Ive done the same thing thinking i was asleep but really awake. And then jerking awake. Not the running and the hospital but the wakeing up. This is exactly what sep was talking about i think with mormons not beleiveing anyting outside their own beliefs. And I take zoloft. Does that make me crazy? These posts make me sad.

    Jared — July 1, 2005 @ 10:33pm
  33. Sep,

    Thanks for writing me back. I never thought that this might be fake, but even if it is I’d rather feel like a chump later on than not say I hope you get better. I had something weird and awful happen to me when I was very little and after telling my older sister she didn’t take it seriously. It made me feel so embarrassed when all I wanted was help. So even if this is a lie, I don’t care, I’m assuming it’s real and telling you I believe you and I’m worried for you. I’d hate for you to feel what I felt when no one believed me.



    Punky — July 3, 2005 @ 1:06am

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